The next International Congress of Mathematicians will take place in 2022 Saint Petersburg. We were lucky to catch up with two of its organisers, Stanislav Smirnov and Andrei Okounkov, during a very busy break at the current ICM, to ask them why they wanted to bring the ICM to Russia, what exactly they are planning, and what they have learnt from Rio.

You can also listen to this interview as a podcast.

This content was produced in a collaboration with the London Mathematical Society.